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[SIZE="4"]General info[/SIZE]
To be released Saturday October 3 2009
Pre-order Saturday September 20 2009
Codex written by Phil Kelly
Space Wolves will supposedly be “even less Codex Astartes” than they were before. This would cover unusual squad sizes etc.
Slashgod found out the following from Phil Kelly
The Teaser from the back of Septembers's White Dwarf:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…77&d=1251063759
A mockup of the cover of White Dwarf UK #358 (US#357) can be seen here along with a blurb on its contents:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…94&d=1249471663
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…52&d=1249416982
The same pic is used for the cover of Thunder From Fenris:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…26&d=1250723170
birdbath pointed out that the GW Website has the following preview of this White Dwarf
[SIZE="4"]Rules[/SIZE]
Army-wide Special Rules
Sagas – Characters can take special skills called Sagas. They are said to work similar to the Vampiric Powers used by Vampire Counts. 75hastings69 gave the example that a character with “Saga of the monster killer” (made up name) may be better at killing Monstrous Creatures, but would suffer a drawbacks such as needing to kill a certain number of them per game.
Wolflord brings us this via Never-mind and others at B&C:
Slashgod tells us that Phil Kelly confirmed Sagas will affect the whole army, not just the Model in question. This tends to fly in the face of what was posted at Dakka above.
Wolf Claws – The Space Wolf version of Lightning Claws, allow you to choose to either re-roll “to hit” or “to wound”.
Special Characters
Supposedly all cost more than Gazkhull Thrakka :eek:.
Logan Grimnar – Slashgod tells us the following:
Ragnar Blackmane – Supposedly the best Close Combat character.
Njal Stormcaller – No news yet, but would share the Rune Priest standard rules.
Ulrik the Slayer – No news yet, but would share the Wolf Priest standard rules.
Canis Wolfborn – Mounted on a large cybernetically enhanced Fenrisian wolf. Wears Power Armour and has a pair of Wolf Claws. Canis also allows you to take two cavalry choices, either wolves, or more Marines on wolves.
Björn the Fellhanded – Early rumours reported Björn would have AV14 all around, but these have been thrown into disrepute recently. Slashgod tells us Phil said Björn would be "the most survivable Dreadnaught in Game."
Special Characters will likely have prescribed (maybe unique) Sagas attached to them.
HQ
Wolf Lords – May take up to two Sagas. They will have a wide variety of weapon options. May possibly be able to make one unit of Wolf Guard a Troops choice.
Wolf Priests (approx 130pts) – Combines the skills of Codex Marines’ Chaplain and Apothacary. Armed with Power weapon, Iron Wolf Amulet (4+ Inv) and Healing Balms and Potions as standard. Will allow units to re-roll “to hit” and also confer Fearless and Feel no Pain on any unit they join. May take up to one saga.
Rune Priests – Armed with Force Weapon and able to take Space Wolf Specific psychic powers. May take up to one Saga.
Iron Priests – Will most likely be brought in line with Codex Techmarines. May take up to one Saga. It is unclear if they will be HQ or Elite.
Elites
Dreadnaught – No news yet, but likely to include Ironclad.
Wolf Guard / Terminators – May take a Wolf Guard Battle Leader who will be able to take up to one Saga.
Wolf Scouts – Will supposedly remain the same and gain the option be mounted in a Land Speeder Storm
Lone Wolf – A one-man unit that will be “really strong” and act similar to Tyranid Lictors
Wulfen – Possibly a "Legion of the Damned" style Unique choice, or maybe something based on HQ selection. It is unclear if they will appear at all.
Troops
Blood Claws – Have supposedly been re-worked in respect to "Berserk Charge" to make them 5th Edition compatible. May take a Wolf Guard as a squad leader.
Grey Hunters – Rumoured to be able to take a second special weapon in their squads. May take a Wolf Guard as a squad leader. True Grit rumoured to change to allow Assaulting after firing Bolters (Not Plasma) rather than additional attacks.
Transports
Rhino – No news yet
Razorback – No news yet
Drop Pod – No news yet
Fast Attack
Blood Claws Skyriders – Blood Claws with Jump Packs.
Land Speeder – No news yet
Land Speeder Storm – Likely Added
Bikes/Attack Bikes – No news yet
Heavy Support
Long Fangs – May possibly receive some sort of special rule allowing them to move and fire, but not assault. May take a Wolf Guard as a squad leader.
Land Raider – Crusader and Redeemer most likely added. Also rumours of a unique Land Raider variant, possibly with three twin-linked Assault Cannon (the relative "cheesiness" of this loadout has been discussed to death including mathhammer, so please don't post any further complaints/calculations).
Predator – No news yet
Whirlwind – No news yet
Vindicator – No news yet
Leman Russ Exterminator – Almost certainly removed
[SIZE="4"]Minis[/SIZE]
All Special Character models (Except Logan Grimnar) are getting re-done. If they don’t appear in the first wave, they will come in later waves.
The new Njal Stormcaller mini is supposedly holding a gnarled staff in front of him.
Canis Wolfborn’s Fenrisian wolf is supposedly a bit bigger than a Juggernaught. There are no plans to make minis of standard Space Wolf Cavalry, and players will be expected to convert their own using Canis. He will reportedly retail for US$41.25
Wolf Lord (Metal - Direct Only) – Nothing known beyond its existence.
There is rumoured to be two main plastic kits (although other rumours say a single upgrade kit):
Space Wolves (plastic) – Designed by Dave Thomas. Used to make all Power Armoured Space Wolves with the exception of Long Fangs, which will need to combine bits from this kit with the vanilla Devastators kit. There are supposedly more than 30 heads in the kit (most of them helmetless) along with weapons and other bits which could be spread out across vanilla kits, or concentrated on a few models in a similar way to the Dark Angels kit. The Kit will apparently build up to 15 Space Wolves on its own, and more if combined with other Marine kits.
3 ups for the kit shown here:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…36&d=1250438343
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…37&d=1250438343
Some examples of what can be done with the kit here:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…95&d=1247782684
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…75&d=1247433160
[SIZE="1"]^From GW Newsletter[/SIZE]
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…21&d=1250454314
[SIZE="1"]^GW Promo poster GD Germany[/SIZE]
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…97&d=1248778851
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…98&d=1248778851
[SIZE="1"]^From Bell of Lost Souls[/SIZE]
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…29&d=1248704021
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…30&d=1248704046
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…31&d=1248704046
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…32&d=1248704093
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…33&d=1248704093
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…34&d=1248704093
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachm…35&d=1248704093
[SIZE="1"]^From Mr.Warhorse47 on B&C[/SIZE]
Wolfguard Terminators (plastic) – They are supposedly ambidextrous, so for example they will have right and left handed weapons options like Stormbolters.
With thanks to BDJV