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    Spieler1:SaigoTakamori
    Spieler2:totalNoobler

    Spieldauer: 30 Minutes, but you just need to look 25.

    Beschreibung: Ok i start with two "grotz" and two Sluggaz. At first i'd take the point in the north-east, than north and after this one i took the north-west point and try to start a rush. I didn't know that my enemy was a imperialguard and i didn't know, this i'd see in the replay, that he've took the point in the east at first. Yeah and i was sooo lucky ;( that i've attacke in this moment in east. In the west the rush would have been better than in the east :(
    he'd play his comissars and mass guards. His micro wasn't bad, but mine. :P It was a long game, and my first one with orks. Maybe i should play eldar if I want a long winstreak. *lough*
    I think people with a big winstreak get mor respect in DoW, right?
    Ok please watch the replay and give me some tips. Oh i don't like that the Cybots of the orcs blocking his own :( u can't do micro with them. They blocked my nobz and additional my nobz get blocked already by my sluggaaaz :(

    Ok could be that the map is to small :D :P

  • Interesting... didnt knew that you could build *there*

    Well, here are some short notes on your game:
    1. dont attack if you are outnumbered
    2. dont retreat if you can wipe his army out and kill some of his gens/lps
    2. dont split your army when your going to fight his main army
    3. build nobsquads instead of sluga/shoota - reeinforce in lategame.
    4. THe building speed of orks is maxed out @150% with 2 worker units in a squad. => no need to build one building with 2 squads containing more than 1 unit.

    Apologize my bad english... iam german ;)

  • He would never find a HQ there^^ noone would^^

    you switched good between range and close combat most of the time, but if you have 2 nobsquads and some sluggas too you should let the Mega Armoured NobZ (MANZ) switch in range combat, because imperial dont get an accuracy penalty while moving, so its hard to bind them in close combat. The range combat weapon of the MANZ do a quite good job in killing imperial infantery.

    At the last battle you did something that seems to make sense but it dont. Dont use the orkish transporter as a transporter, sounds silly but the transporter is a better firesupporter, and as a transporter to the front it will get blocked by other units like in the replay. Its only useful as a transporter to get a harras unit fast to the other side of the map. In main fights you schould take him as an fire supporter against infantery.

    In both replays you find funny not often used positions for your HQ ;)
    I should remember them if I cant find the last building of my enemy^^

  • Hey saigo, nice that u tried orks ;)

    Gonna watch the rep this evening and write a comment!

    EDIT: Ok, just watched teh rep. U played really good!!

    Some minor mistakes:

    - U lost your slugga squad stupidly when after decapping your outer point.

    - @ 5:26 you capped the relic with your 8man shoota squad, instead of your 2man shoota squad. Always use your smallest squad to cap/decapp so your army is as big as possible.

    -In general: I think you should have built 2 Pikk-Ups first, for killing his infantrie, then go for kiila kanz. And when u have killa kanz, don't fight ur enemies infantry, go kick his buildings!! It's imo the only way to win vs. a good IG in lategame.
    And always send your invisible grotz with your vehicles, so they can repair!!

    Apart from that, you played really nice !! :D

    [17:38] sca^Phoenix: auf kuhpornos stehst auch nur du, ich brauch vögelpornos

  • Ahhh Schlachtrind thank you for writing !!!!! :]

    Yeah your analyse was pretty good I think. All what you'd say is right. My mistake wih the sluggazsquad wasn't my best action, I know :( but in the game I did think that the ressource-convenience will be a worse problem than to lose a sluggazsquad. ;(

    Hadn't train last day, but today I will play some games - I think.

    Have tried to do an three sluggaz built order in combination with two generators. I explore the "grot" Infiltration and tried to go for ressources. Would had been nice, but I did so much faults and I've played the first time on an 2v2 map with orks. It was an chaosplayer and he has known me from the forum. =) But my buildings didn't hold anything. Two/three squads kicked my whole base :(

    Saigo Takamori was the last samurai. He'd fought for the japanese samurai-tradition. The film the last samurai is based on this legend.

  • Ok here I come again guys!!!! I will show you another replay. I post this lose, now, cause i'll hope that i get some answers for some questions! =)

    My detractor is playing mass marines with his hero. He was quite good, i think =/
    Ok i'm starting with my standart built order. As its a huge map, for 1v1, he is building a generator at beginning and can nervertheless play mass marines with hero. Ok i got some crazy action against him. One time i try to stuck his hero with an teleport and 7-10 sluggaz. It was so good and the hero is doing an aroundhit and so he's save his hero. I think at this time i would have won, if i could get the hero :(

    Ok but thats not the question. My question is based on the middle/lategame here. He has got massplasm and i got some crazy and big green nobz, with some upgrades. But i don't know what to do. Should i attacke the mass and lose some nobz or should i wait for something special? If he goes back should i turn back or fallow his Marines?

    Oh and one more question do i have. Why run my sluggaz in the competition or close combat, sometimes, while they are on defensive????? I don't understand it. I lose one sluggazsquad cause this action. ;(

    But would you guys say, that i would have won if i had killed his hero?

    The name of the replay is:

  • let me take a look on it. Ok iam not the best player( u can see it at my stats in my signature) =)

    but my fav. race are the orks so i can give u some mini tricks or something.^^ ;)

    *download*

    /€dit

    ok...lets see...

    sometimes it looks like you sacrifice your units! in your first rep. when you attack with your nobzarmy^^! in this little valley...the IG shot your nobs down with plasma and all the stuff......poor nobz:( :D
    So: its always the best way to attack! dont stand and shot with your Nobz!
    btw: hehe...your second Orcbase...hahaha..nice1!!


    in your second rep. it looks like u have learned a lot with playing Orcs! very nice! but i have to say that the attacks of your units are a little bit uncoordinated...and if u attack with your NobZ dont be scared about his plasma junkys^^! overwhelme him with your mass! you had enough to clean the floor with him!

    so long...

    flash

    btw2: do u want to play sometimes? Orcmirror? for fun?

    Edited once, last by flashmaster (April 27, 2006 at 12:08 PM).

  • Best Way for Ork vs Marines is get vehicel as fast as possibel ;>
    Try to get time with your sluggaz+Bm maybe with a stormboysquad. Then try to get some Trukks and push him back.
    Trucks with the upgrade "Killamunni" do a good job vs plasmasm.
    Imo Nobz are wast of req./energy vs mass plasma

    ~Vick Firth~

  • i think for that short period of time you are a talentated gamer
    youre 2nd hq in the first p game was awesome^^
    but orks live from harrassing in my experience and you are to defensive with the nobs i think you could won the battle if you get his forcecomander but with hir third and fourth squad of plasma you couldn't win with nobs...to much heave firepower but quite good i think^^

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  • A young japanese girl posted reps in our forum and it seems anyone except me know here.

    Sooo w00t ... well done for your 1st steps with da boyz, very well even.
    A non biased ork newcomer is a good thing, we could need some fresh snotlins in our lines.
    Sorry for my non comment to the replay itself, but im a bit idle at moment and walking through the boards.

    Welcome here and have a good time

    P.S.: The Last Samurai is a great film ;)


    Sneaky, pretty and' weak. Jus' like all dem Eldar.

  • Yay played WC3 before :D now i'll try something new and this game makes a lot of fun. I love the greeeen boys, or how u'll call them Ulrik. Its harder than with the other races, but i love the closecombat and so i will try to do that in any game :]

    I have to learn many things but i will try to get better soon :D so if u want to fight vs me, and i'm online u can ask me. Against some guys out of the forum i'd already play. Ok some lose but i have learn very important things. Every lose help to be better than before. 8)

    Saigo Takamori was the last samurai. He'd fought for the japanese samurai-tradition. The film the last samurai is based on this legend.

  • hey saigo, i'm just watching the rep.

    Here are some things i remarked yet:

    - You invested too much Req in your BM-Sluggasquad!
    - You haven't been able to make much pressure at the beginning which is imo very important for ork (atleast of most maps)
    - take 'your' outer left LP much earlyer!
    - I am now at 10:40... you have 700/300...don't let your eco float!!! You could have build a 5th Waaghbanner and go for MAN's or go for Vehicles (as David said, fast Vehicles is imo the best thing you can do, cause NObs will lose to plasmarines + plasscouts in 90% of all cases)

    gonna edit this, when i finished watching the rep ;)

    EDIT: kk finished the rep.

    As i see, you went for both, MAN's and Vehicles^^
    Killa Kanz aren't worth their money in most cases imo. They're great for raping your ennemies base but they do shit against large inf-squads.

    And you really had too much eco floating...when you see that you have much eco and perhaps don't know what to build, ALWAYS up your LP's to LP2's!! It's +6 income for each LP2 and eco is really important in DoW!

    Apart from that I don't think that you surely would have won the game if you killed his FC early on, even it was a nice move though! :D
    But it's hard to surround heroes, cause of their abilities to throw away your units.

    All in all i think that you are doing really good, it's only some minor things you have to improve, so go on and play! ;P

    [17:38] sca^Phoenix: auf kuhpornos stehst auch nur du, ich brauch vögelpornos

  • Constant pressure is almost ever the key to victory and if your in a good position, you can use nobz vs sm´s too, but normally its better to get MANs and vehicles.
    But i would say, you should get your own feeling for that. There are a lot of different ways to win with da boyz most are similar but not the same.
    Problem is, most of the orkies are very well biased (including me) and maybe you figure out some new things.
    For example, Santi (nr1 Ork) figured out a slugga rush on outer reaches and workin on some new bo´s with sluggaz. But most of us thought sluggaz are useless stuff. Santi showed up, you can use sluggaz very well, at least on some maps.
    So listen to the tips you get but try what you want, maybe you figure out some new things. ;)


    Sneaky, pretty and' weak. Jus' like all dem Eldar.

  • Quote

    Original von SaigoTakamori
    Yay played WC3 before :D now i'll try something new and this game makes a lot of fun. I love the greeeen boys, or how u'll call them Ulrik. Its harder than with the other races, but i love the closecombat and so i will try to do that in any game :]

    I have to learn many things but i will try to get better soon :D so if u want to fight vs me, and i'm online u can ask me. Against some guys out of the forum i'd already play. Ok some lose but i have learn very important things. Every lose help to be better than before. 8)

    A japanese girl on our forums o.O... How did u find the link? Did Schlachtrind told you?

    Anyway, welcome @ dow.de :> Nice suprise!

  • ran|m0wlwurf had spend me the link to this site/forum. but before he's give me the link i'd play with schlachtrind and before that game i'd watching you and schlachtrind versus some guys.

    it isn't hard for me to read german. i can write german, but my english isn't any good, so i must train it. If i'd said in one thread before i'll go to germany after this summer!!!!!!! :D

    Saigo Takamori was the last samurai. He'd fought for the japanese samurai-tradition. The film the last samurai is based on this legend.

  • stop....you can better speak/write german than english? O.o
    thats awesome i think...
    i mean who in this world without neigourghlands of germany would lerarn serious german^^ (the usa only learn some sentences XD)

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  • lol no spam teron^^
    PS you are a samurai with axes O.o XD

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