Eas - Wer wirds machen ?

in fact, even when epix get punished and maybe gets a barrage he can still play all his eas matches

anyway, I guess the best is this situation to solve this bug.

If the ss decaps invisible and a unit/army is near to the ss and could kill him before the decap ends the ss has to stop the decap. so the player has to stop the decap
If the ss decaps invisible and there is no unit/army who could kill him he can end the decap, cause even if he would visible no one could stop him to decap.

just a litte hint, but maybe difficult to arrange.~~

da haben die admins auch schon entschieden, 4 PP für epIx

boah eyh schafft euch mal ordentliche PCs an kann man sich ja nicht anschaun die low res/quali bilder

Yeah sorry, I was wrong by about 0.1s...

Also: 19.10.08 19:15h sIN.Gaming leave_member epIx

http://www.esl.eu/eu/dow/clan_le…eam/log/941443/

Say what now? Epix accidentaly left sIN?

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in fact, even when epix get punished and maybe gets a barrage he can still play all his eas matches

anyway, I guess the best is this situation to solve this bug.

If the ss decaps invisible and a unit/army is near to the ss and could kill him before the decap ends the ss has to stop the decap. so the pülayer has to stop the decap
If the ss decaps invisible and there is no unit/army who could kill him he can end the decap, cause even if he would visible no one could stop him to decap.

just a litte hint, but maybe difficult to arrange.~~

Hmmm should not be difficult to arrande for an mannered gamer.

cause my clanmates tell lies as you do santi this is 100% lieing just for your sake blaming me as a bugabuser

what about just regaming.. would not be the first game that had to be regamed because of bug

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cause my clanmates tell lies as you do santi this is 100% lieing just for your sake blaming me as a bugabuser

Maybe if your knee-jerk reaction to finding a way to use a bug wasn't "cool, I can use this to win." this whole thing would never have happened.

For all I know your story about what happened against Dan is true, not easy to tell. But when people told me before my game against you that you planned on using it it makes you look less likely to be innocent >.>

Ich persönlich möchte hier garnicht erst jemanden als bugabuser hinstellen, wenn ich es nicht lückenlos beweisen kann, sowas sollte eigentlich nicht in der öffentlichkeit angeprangert werden......

Aber santi hat denk ich mal schon das recht dazu sich aufzuregen... is doch nachvollziehbar.... naja wie dem auch sei, ich seh das ganze nicht so das santi versucht hier mit allen mitteln auf platz eins zu kommen, denn die spiele müssen eh wie schon gesagt wurde gespielt werden.

cause u're telling someone from sIN told u epix could use the bug intentionally and want to do it versus u and u say u can proof it but at sIN nobody can remember tellling something like this... so epIx is pissed and wants to leave the team... indeed did leave it

edit: epix wont get games for the last 2 weeks, what means he's missing out 6 games at the end of eas... so pls dont tell it doesnt matter...

OK, he can play all his matches which are on challenge/open but he cant get new matches during his barrage...hmhm....
rly hard to say if this bug was randomized without abuse or abused.

Even though I guess my suggestion is the best way to handle it in the future.

Nur die frage bleibt offen, obs wirklich stimmt.
Klar, wenn man das wirklich machen kann, dann besteht der verdacht, ABER:
dann dürfte keiner mehr tau spielen bzw. alle tau matches wäre ungültig.
Solange man etwas nicht beweisen kann, ist es nicht wahr.

I didnt plan on using it and I didnt use it at all, dont know what you mean and I would have won without this decap vs Dan anyway as the 1on1 before and the 2nd 1on1 of this meeting this is just hillarious the econ you get from this point is about 2 fws in the time 140 req maybe or less so this is really just hillarious but big mighty santi talks rubbish as always blaming the others for shit that shouldnt be significant to you

the best prove you will get by reading out the rec file. at said time the suit did make a slight direction change, but i cant say for sure if it was pathing or a command. if it was a command (confirm it by .rec) you can be quite sure it is intentional.

do it and you have your problem solved.

it was a direction change but not more if you watch the replay from my point of view with fog of war then I just turned the ghost to the point when I see that hes capping and thats just natural for decapping ss >.>

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the best prove you will get by reading out the rec file. at said time the suit did make a slight direction change, but i cant say for sure if it was pathing or a command. if it was a command (confirm it by .rec) you can be quite sure it is intentional.

do it and you have your problem solved.

You mean like they do in starcraft? Is there a tool for DoW that does this? I know there are some (more and less succesful) that checks APM and stuff but do they actually check what commands are being given and when?

If it's doable that would be very nice, not only for this but for that damn trainer shit that can remove FoW and stuff, that's how they caught oblivion cheaters in SC:BW iirc.

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what means he's missing out 6 games at the end of eas

22nd and 24th games are already autochallenged. Remaining are 26th/29th/31st.

I only do 2 games/week (wednesday/sunday) due to time constraints so if I lose to him I highly doubt I will be able to overtake him since I only have 2 more games that I will get from autochallenge, those two and my games against epix/marteffyo are the only games I have left

The game between me and epix will decide who ends #1 unless if that person lose some of the other remaining games.

how can i see whos doing what in gowas recviwer? i can see actions but not whos doing them

i try to find out

edit: okay there is a rightclick in 1:43 but thats the same second the tc shows up and the ss moves to the point and when he gets sight of the point... watching it from epix view he wasnt able to see the tc on the screen, just on the minimap and couldnt have been able to see the tc whilce clicking on the point. In fact he even had to react in less then 0,3 seconds to start intentionally a invisdecapp to avoid beeing capt by a TC he couldnt even see... elseway the click also could have been from dan who moved his worer from his base to the point in the same moment or his tc or his other worker or whatever unit on the field... the next rightclick is 7 seconds later... and before this there are right clicks at seconds 93, 94, 95 twice. 98 and 100.

i doubt that this rightclick is even for this ss and even if it is... i doubt it was cause of the tc or to start a invis decap...

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okay he m isses out 3 instead of 6 matches, i didnt notice he already got a match vs nessi on 24th and wasnt aware we've already the 19th xD
anyway, i still have a problem with u telling us someone from sIN told u epix use this bug intentionally and try to use it versus u... while nobody in the whole team can remember something like this... whats ur opinion on that? and why dont u at least show us the chatlog / screen u have to prrof it... everybody at the team would agree to show off all logs ever made betwen them and u

No rightclicks for 7 seconds from neither player? Man and they tell me I have low apm xD

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edit: okay there is a rightclick in 1:43 but thats the same second the tc shows up and the ss moves to the point and when he gets sight of the point... watching it from epix view he wasnt able to see the tc on the screen, just on the minimap and couldnt have been able to see the tc whilce clicking on the point. In fact he even had to react in less then 0,3 seconds to start intentionally a invisdecapp to avoid beeing capt by a TC he couldnt even see... elseway the click also could have been from dan who moved his worer from his base to the point in the same moment or his tc or his other worker or whatever unit on the field... the next rightclick is 7 seconds later... and before this there are right clicks at seconds 93, 94, 95 twice. 98 and 100.

i doubt that this rightclick is even for this ss and even if it is... i doubt it was cause of the tc or to start a invis decap...

so it seems he is guiltless? sry, I have no idea how to work that way with gowas repmanager^^

i dunno how excat the recviewer is, there are still some bugs with apm system and i think thats cause of the actions system... might be that the whole thing is shit and we cant use it at all... xD