Your thoughts on Necrons

Listoric · February 28, 2007 at 4:06 PM

So, that's what really interests me: What is your idea of Necrons?

do you like them, what do you hate most about them, are they just fine and all other races are to lazy to find some real solutions? What is going to be changed in the next patch if there should be any changes?

My opinion is stated in a picutre in my signature, to me Necrons are _way_ to simple at the moment. The combination of an easy to handle army, combined with enourmeous firepower for Necronwarriors, a hero with great skills and a "very hard to harass base" is just way over the top. I honestly hope they get changed _alot_,

Neverend · February 28, 2007 at 4:15 PM

I agree with you in all possible ways... I'm a bit more extreme though, so I want them removed

Sagarion · February 28, 2007 at 4:26 PM

When talking about gameplay and E-Sports Necrons -at their current state- are pretty much a desaster and need to be fixed, I'm sure most people will agree with that.

But besides of that gameplay-aspect they are just pretty cool. Their flavour is totally different from the other, mortal, armies and I like their design. Since I am not at all a cometitive gamer (I could barely compete with a toddler grabbing a mouse by reflexes) I value those aspects of the Necrons and the whole game of DoW. 7 different, pretty well styled armies with good background and own philosophy. Thats what I like.

Neverend · February 28, 2007 at 4:32 PM

Yes I guess you're right too

Listoric · March 1, 2007 at 7:46 PM

In termes of different style and backgrounds, warhammer is just awesome. Still the necrons are that different, that they really hurt gameplay at the moment.
Players refuse to play against them, some want them removed, others only hate in every necron topic, it's just a hard task for everyone to be calm and fair to this new race.

I really hope relic does something about their appearance.

Neverend · March 1, 2007 at 7:47 PM

Yes me too, but no matter what's done to them they're still gonna be a no-skill and no-micro race

Listoric · March 1, 2007 at 7:54 PM

acutally, that's what i would put in question.

First of all, yes, necron warriors are the corearmy and yes they are incredibly slow, still you've got plenty of other units, which should demand the most micro.

Just take a look at the hero, wraiths, workers, maybe vehicles. I guess, if you balance the slow units to a certain degree, that they are still strong but _need_ micro intensive units to actually be effective on a midskilled to highskilled level of play, then everything would be fine.

To me it's like the SM skullprobe, most people have no clue how to micro this unit to keep it alive and most of all effective. But the ones who actually put the right amount of micro into it, get an awesome detector and vehicle stopper.

The combination of units is what is lacking, necrons only have to use their hero and the necronwarriors to win 95% of all battles, that's just bullshit. Especially after any other race has to use at least 4 different kind of units to be virtorious, rushes excluded.

Neverend · March 1, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Yes I agree... I'm just afraid that they're gonna get unplayable if you actually balance them. One thing is removing the bugs, but actually balancing them might ruin the whole race Anyway, I like the race... kinda... but I would never start playing them, not even if they got balanced. Eldar/SM will always be my favourites, and Necrons tend to get boring and balancing can't fix that issue

Listoric · March 1, 2007 at 8:04 PM

well, the point of balancing is to actually "un-ruin" the race so the race is as playable as every other race. Don't you think so? Or do you think it will differ a lot of what we have now, and many people will be pissed to see their race totally changed?

Neverend · March 1, 2007 at 8:07 PM

I think the whole "change the whole race" way of patching is good because it balances the game completely but there's always someone that gets angry. The fact is that Crons are so extreme that they're either extremely OP or extremely UP which is a huge problem... and I have no idea how to fix this. Removing the bugs to start with would be a nice idea though, and then let's see how it looks then. With the right counters Crons are more or less beatable, and if the race is bugfree too then it gets a bit easier

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